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Offline Rizzo  
#1 Posted : Monday, January 16, 2017 6:30:16 PM(UTC)
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"What makes the big bang so startling is that it represents the origin of the universe from literally, nothing. For all matter and energy, even physical space and time themselves came into being at the big bang. As the physicist Davies explains, "the claim of being into the universe as discussed in modern science is not just a matter of imposing some sort of organization upon a previous incoherent state, but literally the coming into being of all physical things from nothing." Now this puts the Atheist in a very awkward position. As Anthony Kenny of Oxford University urges "A proponent of the big bang theory, at least if he is an atheist must believe that the universe came from nothing and by nothing." But surely that doesn't make sense. Out of nothing, nothing comes. So why does the universe exist, instead of just nothing? Where did it come from? There must have been a cause which brought the universe into being. Now as the cause of space and time, this being must be an uncaused, timeless, spaceless, immaterial being upon unfathomable power. Moreover, it must be personal as well. Why? Because the cause must be beyond space and time. There it cannot be physical or material. Now there are only two kinds of things that fit that description: Either an abstract object, like numbers, or else a personal mind. But abstract objects can't cause anything; therefore it follows that the cause of the universe is a transcendent, intelligent mind. Thus, the cosmological argument gives us a personal Creator of the universe."

your move puff
Offline Banesworth  
#2 Posted : Monday, January 16, 2017 6:35:27 PM(UTC)
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Offline Rizzo  
#3 Posted : Monday, January 16, 2017 6:39:51 PM(UTC)
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In all probability G-d is sitting back in his throne watching us make idiots of ourselves on his own personal DIRECTV (7.1 billion channels)
Offline Banesworth  
#4 Posted : Monday, January 16, 2017 6:40:16 PM(UTC)
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In all probability G-d is sitting back in his throne watching us make idiots of ourselves on his own personal DIRECTV (7.1 billion channels)


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