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Offline ronnyboy  
#21 Posted : Saturday, January 28, 2017 8:49:39 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: locustslayer Go to Quoted Post
I just like how people post stuff about the order without having actually read the order =/



can you post a link to the order?
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#22 Posted : Saturday, January 28, 2017 8:54:39 PM(UTC)
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can you post a link to it?



http://www.cnn.com/2017/...-ban-refugees/index.html
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#23 Posted : Saturday, January 28, 2017 9:01:55 PM(UTC)
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where does it say china, locustslayer? even in the referenced documentation i can't find china a couple levels deep.
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Muslim crisis in Europe is scary IMO. This is a good thing
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#25 Posted : Saturday, January 28, 2017 9:20:00 PM(UTC)
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A lot of them are stuck at airports right now, it even affects people with green cards, suspiciously he didn't ban any countries where actual terrorist were from nor did he ban any countries that he does business with. It's not really an anti muslim ban guys


They recently unraveled an ISIS cell in Minneapolis that was Somalis. Not sure how you can say that. Also, are we only to take into account terrir acts in the US or is it cheating to consider the origins of terrorists committing acts of terrors in other countries as well? You think they just threw darts at a map?

Fuck outta here Jamesy
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#26 Posted : Saturday, January 28, 2017 9:20:59 PM(UTC)
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Muslim crisis in Europe is scary IMO. This is a good thing


We are getting ahead of it for sure.
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heh federal judge just told donny to suck it
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#28 Posted : Saturday, January 28, 2017 9:29:46 PM(UTC)
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where does it say china, locustslayer? even in the referenced documentation i can't find china a couple levels deep.


I'm going off of what they define as countries of particular concern
"Sec. 3. Suspension of Issuance of Visas and Other Immigration Benefits to Nationals of Countries of Particular Concern."

the cnn article states "The order bars all people hailing from Iraq, Syria, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen. Those countries were named in a 2016 law concerning immigration visas as "countries of concern.""

Two things funny about this.
1. a 2016 law would have been passed by Obama, rofl, so unless Trump was in cahoots with Obama in passing that law, Obama is the one people should be directing their anger at
2. based on the actual list, if they're going to include Iraq and Syria and Somalia, they should be talking about Vietnam, Egypt, Pakistan since they were recommended, sources: http://www.uscirf.gov/, https://www.state.gov/j/drl/irf/c13003.htm
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#29 Posted : Saturday, January 28, 2017 9:31:24 PM(UTC)
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'The U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom (USCIRF) released its 2016 Annual Report on May 2, 2016. In the report, USCIRF recommends that the State Department add these eight countries to its list of “countries of particular concern,” defined under law as countries where particularly severe violations of religious freedom are tolerated or perpetrated: Central African Republic, Egypt, Iraq, Nigeria, Pakistan, Syria, Tajikistan, and Vietnam.

USCIRF also recommends that the following nine countries be re-designated as “countries of particular concern,” or CPCs: Burma, China, Eritrea, Iran, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan.

In addition, USCIRF also recommends ten countries as Tier 2 Countries, those countries whose governments engages in or tolerates at least one of the elements of the "systematic, ongoing, and egregious" standard, but do not fully meet the CPC standard: Afghanistan, Azerbaijan, Cuba, India, Indonesia, Kazakhstan, Laos, Malaysia, Russia, and Turkey. Other Countries Monitored include: Bahrain, Bangladesh, Belarus, Horn of Africa, Kyrgyzstan, Western Europe'

Q: What are the currently designated CPCs?

A: On February 29, 2016, Burma, China, Eritrea, Iran, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan were re-designated as CPCs. Tajikistan was also designated as a CPC.
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Originally Posted by: basedgod Go to Quoted Post
A lot of them are stuck at airports right now, it even affects people with green cards, suspiciously he didn't ban any countries where actual terrorist were from nor did he ban any countries that he does business with. It's not really an anti muslim ban guys


you're right, it's not an anti-muslim ban, but you're wrong about Trump making the list
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#31 Posted : Saturday, January 28, 2017 9:35:27 PM(UTC)
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A lot of them are stuck at airports right now, it even affects people with green cards, suspiciously he didn't ban any countries where actual terrorist were from nor did he ban any countries that he does business with. It's not really an anti muslim ban guys


you're right, it's not an anti-muslim ban, but you're wrong about Trump making the list
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#32 Posted : Saturday, January 28, 2017 9:44:20 PM(UTC)
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/28/politics/text-of-trump-executive-order-nation-ban-refugees/index.html


i dont see anywhere that list of countries you posted.

can you point it out for me/?
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#33 Posted : Saturday, January 28, 2017 9:46:54 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: ronnyboy Go to Quoted Post
i dont see anywhere that list of countries you posted.

can you point it out for me/?


exactly, trump never directly listed ANY countries himself, especially muslim countires, they are referenced and I've already pointed it out in previous posts

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Well right now there's a ban on immigration from all countries for 4 months.
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#35 Posted : Saturday, January 28, 2017 9:49:05 PM(UTC)
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Iraq, Syria, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen


I'm cool with that
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#36 Posted : Saturday, January 28, 2017 9:57:17 PM(UTC)
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Muslim crisis in Europe is scary IMO. This is a good thing


Muslim crisis in europe has nothing to do with immigration policy, and everything with how they absorbed immigrants; melting pot vs mixed salad.

europe's muslim crisis doesnt even have to do with newly landed immigrants, but first and second generation brits, frenchies, germans, etc, whose parents immigrated.

this isnt a good thing and will likely cause more terrorism.

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#37 Posted : Saturday, January 28, 2017 9:58:49 PM(UTC)
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We are getting ahead of it for sure.


america is already ahead of it because immigrants to america are encouraged to salute the flag and make it their own.

to think that these actions will actually stop terrorism, or even lessen it, is just uninformed and stupid. These actions will bring about a much bigger wave of it. Get ready.
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Originally Posted by: ronnyboy Go to Quoted Post
Muslim crisis in europe has nothing to do with immigration policy, and everything with how they absorbed immigrants; melting pot vs mixed salad.

europe's muslim crisis doesnt even have to do with newly landed immigrants, but first and second generation brits, frenchies, germans, etc, whose parents immigrated.

this isnt a good thing and will likely cause more terrorism.



Just keep your head low and let the brown people die you fucking jew
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#39 Posted : Saturday, January 28, 2017 10:08:38 PM(UTC)
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heh federal judge just told donny to suck it


Donny gonna suck it long and hard too hahahah
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#40 Posted : Saturday, January 28, 2017 10:17:56 PM(UTC)
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Just keep your head low and let the brown people die you fucking jew


The brown people are gonna start blowing a lot of shit up. Also, with america's lax gun laws, fully expect mass shootings much like the Paris attack.

So far, the US has been virtually unscathed by radical islamic extremism (post 9-11, who werent the internal enemy, but foreigners). Actions like these alienate and leave feelings of persecution against people who never thought to commit acts of violence againsttheir fellow citizens.

Anyone thinking that these actions are smart, are in for a rude awakening.
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